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The Waiting Room / Any basketball players here?
« on: March 03, 2022, 10:23:17 PM »
Oh boy. Went shooting the other day. Very mild stuff, taking jumpers only and not playing in any half or full court games.

Ankle felt like it had been through the meat grinder afterwards. Yikes


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https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/adult-humans-can-regenerate-cartilage--study-66558

Humans, unlike some lucky members of the animal kingdom, have a very limited ability to regrow damaged or missing body parts. But a study published yesterday (October 9) in Science Advances finds that we can generate new proteins in joint cartilage, and this ability is more pronounced in joints farther from the center of the body, such as the ankles, than in those nearer in, such as the hips. The mechanism for this ability resembles that used by animals such as salamanders and axolotls to regrow lost limbs.

“We believe that an understanding of this ‘salamander-like’ regenerative capacity in humans, and the critically missing components of this regulatory circuit, could provide the foundation for new approaches to repair joint tissues and possibly whole human limbs,” says coauthor Virginia Kraus, who researches osteoarthritis at Duke University School of Medicine, in a university press release.

Kraus and her colleagues analyzed proteins from cartilage tissue from human hips, knees, and ankles for changes to amino acids that occur with time. “We suddenly started noticing that the ankle proteins tended by and large to be much younger than the same proteins in the knee and the same proteins in the hip,” Kraus tells The Guardian.

The researchers found that the prevalence of younger proteins was tied to the abundance of a microRNA that blocks the action of a messenger RNA that inhibits the production of new collagen proteins. Similar microRNAs are active in animals that can regrow limbs, the authors note—and, as in humans, the animals’ regeneration ability is greater in distal parts of the body than in more central ones.

Writing to Gizmodo, Kraus says she is “very hopeful” that the findings could lead to therapies. Potentially, she suggests, microRNAs could be “injected directly into a joint to boost repair to prevent osteoarthritis after a joint injury or even slow or reverse osteoarthritis once it has developed.”

“It is amazing to find that although we humans have separated from the axolotl 400 million years ago in evolution, there are many pathways that are commonly shared between human and axolotl,” writes Prayag Murawala, a postdoc at the Research Institute of Molecular Pathology in Vienna, Austria, in an email to Gizmodo. Murawala, who was not involved in the study, adds that “although we still have a long way to go to explain why humans cannot regenerate, this study provides compelling evidence that there are many similarities in human and salamander limbs.”



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https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/08/Researchers-find-method-to-regrow-cartilage-in-the-joints.html

In laboratory studies, Stanford School of Medicine researchers have found a way to regenerate the cartilage that eases movement between bones.

Researchers at the Stanford University School of Medicine have discovered a way to regenerate, in mice and human tissue, the cushion of cartilage found in joints.

Loss of this slippery and shock-absorbing tissue layer, called articular cartilage, is responsible for many cases of joint pain and arthritis, which afflicts more than 55 million Americans. Nearly 1 in 4 adult Americans suffer from arthritis, and far more are burdened by joint pain and inflammation generally.

The Stanford researchers figured out how to regrow articular cartilage by first causing slight injury to the joint tissue, then using chemical signals to steer the growth of skeletal stem cells as the injuries heal. The work was published Aug. 17 in the journal Nature Medicine.

“Cartilage has practically zero regenerative potential in adulthood, so once it’s injured or gone, what we can do for patients has been very limited,” said assistant professor of surgery Charles K.F. Chan, PhD. “It’s extremely gratifying to find a way to help the body regrow this important tissue.”

The work builds on previous research at Stanford that resulted in isolation of the skeletal stem cell, a self-renewing cell that is also responsible for the production of bone, cartilage and a special type of cell that helps blood cells develop in bone marrow. The new research, like previous discoveries of mouse and human skeletal stem cells, were mostly carried out in the laboratories of Chan and professor of surgery Michael Longaker, MD.

Articular cartilage is a complex and specialized tissue that provides a slick and bouncy cushion between bones at the joints. When this cartilage is damaged by trauma, disease or simply thins with age, bones can rub directly against each other, causing pain and inflammation, which can eventually result in arthritis.

Chan
Charles K.F. Chan

Damaged cartilage can be treated through a technique called microfracture, in which tiny holes are drilled in the surface of a joint. The microfracture technique prompts the body to create new tissue in the joint, but the new tissue is not much like cartilage.

 “Microfracture results in what is called fibrocartilage, which is really more like scar tissue than natural cartilage,” said Chan. “It covers the bone and is better than nothing, but it doesn’t have the bounce and elasticity of natural cartilage, and it tends to degrade relatively quickly.” 

The most recent research arose, in part, through the work of surgeon Matthew Murphy, PhD, a visiting researcher at Stanford who is now at the University of Manchester. “I never felt anyone really understood how microfracture really worked,” Murphy said. “I realized the only way to understand the process was to look at what stem cells are doing after microfracture.” Murphy is the lead author on the paper. Chan and Longaker are co-senior authors.

For a long time, Chan said, people assumed that adult cartilage did not regenerate after injury because the tissue did not have many skeletal stem cells that could be activated. Working in a mouse model, the team documented that microfracture did activate skeletal stem cells. Left to their own devices, however, those activated skeletal stem cells regenerated fibrocartilage in the joint.

But what if the healing process after microfracture could be steered toward development of cartilage and away from fibrocartilage? The researchers knew that as bone develops, cells must first go through a cartilage stage before turning into bone. They had the idea that they might encourage the skeletal stem cells in the joint to start along a path toward becoming bone, but stop the process at the cartilage stage.

The researchers used a powerful molecule called bone morphogenetic protein 2 (BMP2) to initiate bone formation after microfracture, but then stopped the process midway with a molecule that blocked another signaling molecule important in bone formation, called vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF).

“What we ended up with was cartilage that is made of the same sort of cells as natural cartilage with comparable mechanical properties, unlike the fibrocartilage that we usually get,” Chan said. “It also restored mobility to osteoarthritic mice and significantly reduced their pain.”

As a proof of principle that this might also work in humans, the researchers transferred human tissue into mice that were bred to not reject the tissue, and were able to show that human skeletal stem cells could be steered toward bone development but stopped at the cartilage stage.

The next stage of research is to conduct similar experiments in larger animals before starting human clinical trials. Murphy points out that because of the difficulty in working with very small mouse joints, there might be some improvements to the system they could make as they move into relatively larger joints.

The first human clinical trials might be for people who have arthritis in their fingers and toes. “We might start with small joints, and if that works we would move up to larger joints like knees,” Murphy says. “Right now, one of the most common surgeries for arthritis in the fingers is to have the bone at the base of the thumb taken out. In such cases we might try this to save the joint, and if it doesn’t work we just take out the bone as we would have anyway. There’s a big potential for improvement, and the downside is that we would be back to where we were before.”

Longaker points out that one advantage of their discovery is that the main components of a potential therapy are approved as safe and effective by the FDA. “BMP2 has already been approved for helping bone heal, and VEGF inhibitors are already used as anti-cancer therapies,” Longaker said. “This would help speed the approval of any therapy we develop.”

Joint replacement surgery has revolutionized how doctors treat arthritis and is very common: By age 80, 1 in 10 people will have a hip replacement and 1 in 20 will have a knee replaced. But such joint replacement is extremely invasive, has a limited lifespan and is performed only after arthritis hits and patients endure lasting pain. The researchers say they can envision a time when people are able to avoid getting arthritis in the first place by rejuvenating their cartilage in their joints before it is badly degraded.

 “One idea is to follow a ‘Jiffy Lube’ model of cartilage replenishment,” Longaker said. “You don’t wait for damage to accumulate — you go in periodically and use this technique to boost your articular cartilage before you have a problem.”

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The Waiting Room / Happy Thanksgiving 2017
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:46:20 AM »
Hey all, wishing you a Happy thanksgiving 2017. I'm proud of the small community we've built here over the years. Hope you all have a healthy, safe holiday with your loved ones.

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Ankle / Alan - Forum Creator's Thread
« on: September 13, 2017, 03:00:50 AM »
Hey OCDNET community, I'm Alan, the forum creator, and I figured it was time to create my own thread (and keep it updated). As the forum admin I feel I haven't contributed as much as I should have so I'm here to fix that, share my life, and get to know you guys better.
First I just wanted to say hi and thank you all for being the most supportive and knowledgeable group out there. Without this forum, without you guys to talk to, I don't know where I'd be in my OCD journey.

So, some of you may not know me, or why I started OCD.net, (too lazy to type the whole thing).
I started this forum about 5 years ago when I thought the rules and restrictions on other health boards were too draconian. I wanted an unfiltered, devoted site to OCD injuries so I went ahead and created it. But that was the easy part. And Besides maintain and pay for the forum I really haven't done much. The community has contributed way more than I ever have and really made this forum the informative, supportive place it has become.

As for my personal injury, I don't even know where my original thread is, but my ocd is on my left ankle, two holes, medium size. I had microfracture and it didn't go that well. Ankle still feels quite weak. That was almost 10 years ago and I just kinda get by in life. I didn't run or jump for all those years after the microfracture because my ankle just couldn't handle it. Thank god I could walk but if it was long distances and if i was carrying something heavy my ankle got really iffy and sore.

Dealing with the injury was more than I could handle. I gave up. I honestly stopped doing research for years. It was this forum's members who really put in a lot of the hard work (again, thank you all for your contributions, I love you).
So where I am now is that I feel more surgeries are too risky and plus I don't have the money for them anyways. So that's another reason to be lazy about research.

A few months ago, I joined a gym that had a basketball court and I started shooting around. Basketball was my old passion and though I couldn't play, just shooting the ball didn't hurt my ankle that bad. SO i shot around for 3 months, and then one day at a different gym, there were people playing and they asked if i wanted to play. Normally I'd decline and tell them I was injured, but I don't know what came over me to say yes. I hadn't played in like.. 9 years. I think I was just a bit depressed or lost in my life and I was like F*** it, I want to play, let's just try and see what happens.

So I can't play like I used to obviously, but I found that by moving around carefully and not jumping or running around like a madman I could get by without being the worst player on the court. A few days later, I played again. And it felt so freaking amazing. I felt so alive. I did mess up my ankle a bit but it was so worth it.

And since then, i have been playing a few times a week. My ankle hurts afterwards but i take a rest for a few days and then I can't help but play again.

I don't really know where i'm going with this, just wanted to share that maybe i feel a little bit of the pain and struggle you guys go through to have to cut off your passions in life. I know i have said to some ppl to give up on their athletic dreams. But maybe there's a compromise. This is our life goddamnit, you know? We have to do the things that make us feel alive and free.

So, that's my update. I will try to post more about myself and what I'm going through and I look forward to interacting more with you guys.

Thanks for reading.
-Alan


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This is a thread for posting current status after surgery/operation. Please limit to > 1 year.
The aim is to give people some perspective on success/failures of operations.
Feel free to update your status every month or several with a new post.

In your post, please copy and paste, then answer:

original injury and size of ocd(s):
type of operation:
patient age at operation:
time since operation:
performing surgeon:
description of current injury status:
any other info:

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Ankle / The OCD Book
« on: February 04, 2014, 11:22:53 PM »
Buy the book on Amazon

Introduction

My aim in writing this book is to help others understand osteochondral defects in the ankle and how best to deal with their injury. As an OCD (osteochondral defect) ankle sufferer myself who has been to many ankle and foot doctors and undergone surgery, I've realized how little help and support is out there for people like us. If your experience has been anything like mine, which I hope it hasn't, then you have probably suffered disappointment, feelings of loneliness and frustration, anger, denial, grief, and resignation. Friends and family may casually disregard the extent of your injury, ignorant of how much pain your foot is in. Doctors may be curt and unable to relate to their patients, never having suffered an OCD injury themselves. Or maybe they're just too busy to explain everything to us or hold our hands through this difficult time. That's understandable. But we're still here, us OCD sufferers, with a need for knowledge and perhaps most importantly of all, support. I believe both are needed for a healthy recovery.

**Special Notes**
I am not a doctor, and the book's content is not an endorsement of any medical procedure or doctor and should not be taken as medical advice. 

This book is not meant to be a medical text. Complicated medical jargon in general is avoided, and when specific medical terms must be used, they're accompanied by definitions for easy comprehensibility. I've written in lay language that hopefully anyone can understand. This book is meant to be conversational and easy to read.

I intend to update this book periodically, and I humbly ask that you send me corrections, feedback, and suggestions for improvements so that I can make this book as comprehensive and helpful as it can be for all current and future ocd patients.

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The Waiting Room / Hello and Welcome to osteochondral defect Forums
« on: March 02, 2009, 07:45:15 PM »
Hello and welcome to OsteochondralDefect.net Forums, a community for patients with osteochondral defect lesions (OCD) in the ankle, knee, and other places. Please stay a while and share your experiences with OCD lesions with others.

This forum is a supportive environment where individuals can come together, find answers, and help each other recover.

Besides maintaining the forum, I will also post articles about new research and techniques for treating OCD lesions. Please feel free to recommend any articles you think worthy of being on the front page of ocd.net by posting them in the Recommended Articles section.

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